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Re: [iphonesb] licensing tunes for an app
Your voice just adds to an ever-widening chorus that I’ve got to be crazy to go the standard licensing route. :-) I considering including a few license-able songs in my app but finally whittled it down to a single 8-second snippet of an old Mitch Miller chestnut. I don’t think 8 seconds is worth the hassle I’m likely to be going through!
Thank you to you and everybody who's contributed their thoughts,
Howard
On Sep 29, 2014, at 2:32 AM, David <davidisdk@gmail.com> wrote:
Also note that you'll have to license the song in every country where you will sell the app, unless you can get a direct deal with the rights owners (which is sometimes someone different in every country). In short it is a mess.I'd recommend you pay for an original work or find songs that are not copyrighted anymore. Note that the actual interpretation/recording can be copyrighted but the song itself be out of copyright (this is the case for anything from Mozart, Beethoven, ...). In that case you have to pay someone to rerecord the song.To get an idea of the timeframe, a song is usually out of copyright 50 to 70 years after the death of its author (this depends on the country and is a rather large / safe estimate); but ask a layer...Cheers,David
On Saturday, September 27, 2014 2:46:29 AM UTC+2, howardk wrote:Is this group still active? Posts seem very far and few between.If there's anybody out there, -;) I've got a question. I've got an app coming close to completion (K -- 3 early childhoood education), and want to include a few snippets of tunes that were popular in the 1950's. i'm presuming that i'll be owing somebody a royalty per app, maybe even each time a tune is played in the app, but that's about all I know. Does anyone have information on this topic, ie, how to find the copyright holder of the pieces, what are typical licensing terms, etc etc. I'm in Canada if that's relevant to the discussion.
TIA,
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[iphonesb] Re: licensing tunes for an app
Also note that you'll have to license the song in every country where you will sell the app, unless you can get a direct deal with the rights owners (which is sometimes someone different in every country). In short it is a mess.
-- I'd recommend you pay for an original work or find songs that are not copyrighted anymore. Note that the actual interpretation/recording can be copyrighted but the song itself be out of copyright (this is the case for anything from Mozart, Beethoven, ...). In that case you have to pay someone to rerecord the song.
To get an idea of the timeframe, a song is usually out of copyright 50 to 70 years after the death of its author (this depends on the country and is a rather large / safe estimate); but ask a layer...
Cheers,
David
On Saturday, September 27, 2014 2:46:29 AM UTC+2, howardk wrote:
On Saturday, September 27, 2014 2:46:29 AM UTC+2, howardk wrote:
Is this group still active? Posts seem very far and few between.If there's anybody out there, -;) I've got a question. I've got an app coming close to completion (K -- 3 early childhoood education), and want to include a few snippets of tunes that were popular in the 1950's. i'm presuming that i'll be owing somebody a royalty per app, maybe even each time a tune is played in the app, but that's about all I know. Does anyone have information on this topic, ie, how to find the copyright holder of the pieces, what are typical licensing terms, etc etc. I'm in Canada if that's relevant to the discussion.
TIA,
Howard
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Re: [iphonesb] licensing tunes for an app
I can now understand why it's attractive to get something written specifically for you. Yikes! :-)
Thanks for the info.
Howard
On Sep 27, 2014, at 7:33 AM, Ted Oliverio <google@PlayNaked.com> wrote:
> It might be worthwhile to investigate out of copyright tunes. Also, this is why so many apps pay someone to write original works.
>
> Also, it's almost certainly worth your while to offer an experienced copyright lawyer $100 for an "initial consult" to ask some basic questions about which direction to go. You might learn, for example, that an entire category of fees doesn't apply to your situation, or some such. Well worth the price, IMO.
>
>
> On Sep 27, 2014, at 7:17 AM, Howard Katz <howardck@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks Bill,
>> I've started looking into it. It's way more complicated, and at least at this point looking quite a bit more expensive, than I was hoping for. We shall see tho.
>> Howard
>>
>> On Sep 27, 2014, at 3:46 AM, Bill <billd07@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think ASCAP can handle that for you
>>>
>>> Bill DeMuro
>>>
>>>> On Sep 26, 2014, at 8:46 PM, howardk <howardck@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Is this group still active? Posts seem very far and few between.
>>>>
>>>> If there's anybody out there, -;) I've got a question. I've got an app coming close to completion (K -- 3 early childhoood education), and want to include a few snippets of tunes that were popular in the 1950's. i'm presuming that i'll be owing somebody a royalty per app, maybe even each time a tune is played in the app, but that's about all I know. Does anyone have information on this topic, ie, how to find the copyright holder of the pieces, what are typical licensing terms, etc etc. I'm in Canada if that's relevant to the discussion.
>>>> TIA,
>>>> Howard
>
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Thanks for the info.
Howard
On Sep 27, 2014, at 7:33 AM, Ted Oliverio <google@PlayNaked.com> wrote:
> It might be worthwhile to investigate out of copyright tunes. Also, this is why so many apps pay someone to write original works.
>
> Also, it's almost certainly worth your while to offer an experienced copyright lawyer $100 for an "initial consult" to ask some basic questions about which direction to go. You might learn, for example, that an entire category of fees doesn't apply to your situation, or some such. Well worth the price, IMO.
>
>
> On Sep 27, 2014, at 7:17 AM, Howard Katz <howardck@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks Bill,
>> I've started looking into it. It's way more complicated, and at least at this point looking quite a bit more expensive, than I was hoping for. We shall see tho.
>> Howard
>>
>> On Sep 27, 2014, at 3:46 AM, Bill <billd07@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think ASCAP can handle that for you
>>>
>>> Bill DeMuro
>>>
>>>> On Sep 26, 2014, at 8:46 PM, howardk <howardck@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Is this group still active? Posts seem very far and few between.
>>>>
>>>> If there's anybody out there, -;) I've got a question. I've got an app coming close to completion (K -- 3 early childhoood education), and want to include a few snippets of tunes that were popular in the 1950's. i'm presuming that i'll be owing somebody a royalty per app, maybe even each time a tune is played in the app, but that's about all I know. Does anyone have information on this topic, ie, how to find the copyright holder of the pieces, what are typical licensing terms, etc etc. I'm in Canada if that's relevant to the discussion.
>>>> TIA,
>>>> Howard
>
>
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Re: [iphonesb] licensing tunes for an app
It might be worthwhile to investigate out of copyright tunes. Also, this is why so many apps pay someone to write original works.
Also, it's almost certainly worth your while to offer an experienced copyright lawyer $100 for an "initial consult" to ask some basic questions about which direction to go. You might learn, for example, that an entire category of fees doesn't apply to your situation, or some such. Well worth the price, IMO.
On Sep 27, 2014, at 7:17 AM, Howard Katz <howardck@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Bill,
> I've started looking into it. It's way more complicated, and at least at this point looking quite a bit more expensive, than I was hoping for. We shall see tho.
> Howard
>
> On Sep 27, 2014, at 3:46 AM, Bill <billd07@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think ASCAP can handle that for you
>>
>> Bill DeMuro
>>
>>> On Sep 26, 2014, at 8:46 PM, howardk <howardck@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Is this group still active? Posts seem very far and few between.
>>>
>>> If there's anybody out there, -;) I've got a question. I've got an app coming close to completion (K -- 3 early childhoood education), and want to include a few snippets of tunes that were popular in the 1950's. i'm presuming that i'll be owing somebody a royalty per app, maybe even each time a tune is played in the app, but that's about all I know. Does anyone have information on this topic, ie, how to find the copyright holder of the pieces, what are typical licensing terms, etc etc. I'm in Canada if that's relevant to the discussion.
>>> TIA,
>>> Howard
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Also, it's almost certainly worth your while to offer an experienced copyright lawyer $100 for an "initial consult" to ask some basic questions about which direction to go. You might learn, for example, that an entire category of fees doesn't apply to your situation, or some such. Well worth the price, IMO.
On Sep 27, 2014, at 7:17 AM, Howard Katz <howardck@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Bill,
> I've started looking into it. It's way more complicated, and at least at this point looking quite a bit more expensive, than I was hoping for. We shall see tho.
> Howard
>
> On Sep 27, 2014, at 3:46 AM, Bill <billd07@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think ASCAP can handle that for you
>>
>> Bill DeMuro
>>
>>> On Sep 26, 2014, at 8:46 PM, howardk <howardck@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Is this group still active? Posts seem very far and few between.
>>>
>>> If there's anybody out there, -;) I've got a question. I've got an app coming close to completion (K -- 3 early childhoood education), and want to include a few snippets of tunes that were popular in the 1950's. i'm presuming that i'll be owing somebody a royalty per app, maybe even each time a tune is played in the app, but that's about all I know. Does anyone have information on this topic, ie, how to find the copyright holder of the pieces, what are typical licensing terms, etc etc. I'm in Canada if that's relevant to the discussion.
>>> TIA,
>>> Howard
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Re: [iphonesb] licensing tunes for an app
Thanks Bill,
I've started looking into it. It's way more complicated, and at least at this point looking quite a bit more expensive, than I was hoping for. We shall see tho.
Howard
On Sep 27, 2014, at 3:46 AM, Bill <billd07@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think ASCAP can handle that for you
>
> Bill DeMuro
>
>> On Sep 26, 2014, at 8:46 PM, howardk <howardck@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Is this group still active? Posts seem very far and few between.
>>
>> If there's anybody out there, -;) I've got a question. I've got an app coming close to completion (K -- 3 early childhoood education), and want to include a few snippets of tunes that were popular in the 1950's. i'm presuming that i'll be owing somebody a royalty per app, maybe even each time a tune is played in the app, but that's about all I know. Does anyone have information on this topic, ie, how to find the copyright holder of the pieces, what are typical licensing terms, etc etc. I'm in Canada if that's relevant to the discussion.
>> TIA,
>> Howard
>>
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I've started looking into it. It's way more complicated, and at least at this point looking quite a bit more expensive, than I was hoping for. We shall see tho.
Howard
On Sep 27, 2014, at 3:46 AM, Bill <billd07@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think ASCAP can handle that for you
>
> Bill DeMuro
>
>> On Sep 26, 2014, at 8:46 PM, howardk <howardck@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Is this group still active? Posts seem very far and few between.
>>
>> If there's anybody out there, -;) I've got a question. I've got an app coming close to completion (K -- 3 early childhoood education), and want to include a few snippets of tunes that were popular in the 1950's. i'm presuming that i'll be owing somebody a royalty per app, maybe even each time a tune is played in the app, but that's about all I know. Does anyone have information on this topic, ie, how to find the copyright holder of the pieces, what are typical licensing terms, etc etc. I'm in Canada if that's relevant to the discussion.
>> TIA,
>> Howard
>>
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Re: [iphonesb] licensing tunes for an app
Specifically, what do you mean?
On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Bill <billd07@gmail.com> wrote:
I think ASCAP can handle that for you
Bill DeMuro
> On Sep 26, 2014, at 8:46 PM, howardk <howardck@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Is this group still active? Posts seem very far and few between.
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> TIA,
> Howard
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