Testflight (to a lesser extent: Hockey) does analytics purely to make
up for the fact their core business is/was silly and not worth paying
for. This is more an issue for Testflight, which traditionally did
"nothing", than for Hockey, which had close tie-ins with QuincyKit.
I'd say they're almost the same today, except TF seems consistently
incapable of providing sensible, working GUI's for their data for
years at a time (e.g. we had unreadable logs in their system for 6+
months, with only a hand-waving "you're right, maybe we should make it
so you can actually view the logs - we'll do that one day" in the
meantime. Absurd!)
Ultimately, though, neither of them know what they're doing with
analytics, and it's foolish to use them when GA exists *and pre-dates
them by multiple years*.
(historically, one explanation for why Flurry is so poor today is that
they made "app recommendations" their core business, as a higher-value
/ easier to monetize product; using TF or Hockey for analytics is
likely to leave you in th same situation: it's a non-core product that
doesn't represent a future money-stream, and it's likely to rot)
...or if you're really unlucky, it'll go the way of OpenFeint and
their competitors, who simply "stopped" core (but not monetizable
enough) services often with barely weeks of notice.
Better to use a site that actually you know ... focusses on Analytics.
(if not -- why not do it yourself? a basic Analytics solution is very
very easy to create :))
On 12 December 2013 15:32, BenSS <ben.shive@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'll second the Flurry displeasure. It's still very difficult to get your
> data out in any sane way either. For an indie, it's probably the easiest
> route, but anything more advanced it's simply not worth it.
>
> Google Analytics
> Artisan Mobile (local to me, awesome team)
> Localytics
> Apsalar
> TestFlight Live
> HockeyApp
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 4:58:39 PM UTC-5, Adam Martin wrote:
>>
>> Flurry = worst of the lot, but simultaneously "cheapest" and "makes
>> pretty graphs that lazy marketing people like to go "OOH, SHINY!" at"
>>
>> GA = most professional of the lot, but requires training (!) to use it
>> fully. Many marketing teams these days have at least one trained GA
>> person, especially corporates and digital companies, in which case its
>> a no-brainer.
>>
>> New Relic = new kid on the block, has the shiniest graphs of all - but
>> costs a monthly fee, and aggregates/deletes your data every 7 days (!)
>> (so you only get "summary" data for everything more than a week ago).
>> This is either foolish or very smart, I'm not sure which yet :).
>>
>> Personally, I'd say "GA if you can, if you (or client) is willing to
>> learn how to use it (it's a powerful tool, a bit like Excel: simple on
>> the surface, but only worth using if you're going to learn how to use
>> it properly) ... New Relic if not. Flurry if your budget is $0 and you
>> basically don't care, and only want to track "how many people used the
>> app yesterday, and which version of iOS were they running".
>>
>> NB: Flurry's stats are broken for everything except the basics. The
>> basics ... you can track yourself very easily. If you are despertely
>> short on time and money, I'd use Flurry, otherwise: don't bother.
>> Flurry used to be great for its time, but *it never improved*, and the
>> market moved on rapidly.
>>
>> On 11 December 2013 21:19, Ajay Gautam <si...@tapinferno.com> wrote:
>> > Would you like to share pros / cons of using flurry. (I have used flurry
>> > in
>> > the past - not a big fan of their spam / mail traffic)
>> >
>> > Ajay
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> > On Dec 11, 2013, at 4:17 PM, Kenneth Ballenegger
>> > <ken...@ballenegger.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > On iOS, I've used Flurry Analytics.
>> >
>> > -Kenneth
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Ajay Gautam <si...@tapinferno.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >> I am thinking of using Google's analytics.
>> >>
>> >> Anyone has any experience with google'sanalytics?
>> >> Pros / Cons?
>> >> Anything better out there?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >> Ajay
>> >>
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